Stuffplug Programming Language Options

[Mike]

Don't ask why, i've just always been interested.

What programming language is StuffPlug coded in? I was thinking something along the lines of C#. Me, being a programmer myself, was just interested.

Thanks.

[TheBlasphemer]

It's coded in C++ with a lot of low-level stuff being written with inline assembly.

[J-Thread]

TheSteve and I are trying to convince TB from the fact that we should switch to C+-, but we're still stuck with C++. Read more over C+- here: http://www.muq.org/~cynbe/humor/c+-.html

[Three6Mafia]

TheSteve and I are trying to convince TB from the fact that we should switch to C+-, but we're still stuck with C++. Read more over C+- here: http://www.muq.org/~cynbe/humor/c+-.html

heh *smirk* Looks more advanced, would TB be able to make an easy transition to C+-? *rollseyes*

This post has been edited by Three6Mafia: Mar 7 2007, 10:35 PM

[Mike]

I thought it was something in C.

Very nice. I dont know too much of C++, nor C+-. Java and C# are my main areas.

Anyway, good luck with the program.

[J-Thread]

Actually, C+- is a joke, if you read the page carefully C++ is like C#, but then less object oriented and with a lot of * and & everywhere... When you know Java and C#, C++ looks very ugly, but when you get to know C++ better, it turns out that there can be some nice concepts in it. I still like C# more then C++ btw, but well, I am a .NET freak! Java is less interesting, I just hate when I can't just do:

CODE

ArrayList<char> al = new ArrayList<char>();

Because that weird primary type and boxing/unboxing stuff, it need's to be:

CODE

ArrayList<Character> al = new ArrayList<Character>();

So far my idea about Java

This post has been edited by J-Thread: Mar 8 2007, 09:10 PM

[TheBlasphemer]

C++ is like C#, but then less object oriented and with a lot of * and & everywhere...

C++ is not less object oriented than C#, but it leaves it up to you whether to actually use it or not. You can choose to make everything object oriented, or you can choose to keep it all imperative, and that's one of the beauties of C++, you don't have to write a huge main-class for a simple hello world!
Furthermore the & and * both have a specific purpose to be able to program in a much lower level than C#, so I'm actually glad I see a lot of those! Mind you though, if you want to go all object oriented, you can mostly evade the use of *, and will only need & every now and then for pass-by-reference.

[Mike]

Actually, C+- is a joke, if you read the page carefully C++ is like C#, but then less object oriented and with a lot of * and & everywhere... When you know Java and C#, C++ looks very ugly, but when you get to know C++ better, it turns out that there can be some nice concepts in it. I still like C# more then C++ btw, but well, I am a .NET freak! Java is less interesting, I just hate when I can't just do:

CODE

ArrayList<char> al = new ArrayList<char>();

Because that weird primary type and boxing/unboxing stuff, it need's to be:

CODE

ArrayList<Character> al = new ArrayList<Character>();

So far my idea about Java

Glad to see another C# Lover
I agree with you about knowing Java and C# making C++ look ugly, it sure does! My C++ Skills are limited. But i guess im not all that bad

[TheSteve]

I personally don't like the verbosity of C# and Java. I also don't like that you're forced to make all your functions in the class definition.

[Mike]

C++ is not less object oriented than C#, but it leaves it up to you whether to actually use it or not. You can choose to make everything object oriented, or you can choose to keep it all imperative, and that's one of the beauties of C++, you don't have to write a huge main-class for a simple hello world!
Furthermore the & and * both have a specific purpose to be able to program in a much lower level than C#, so I'm actually glad I see a lot of those! Mind you though, if you want to go all object oriented, you can mostly evade the use of *, and will only need & every now and then for pass-by-reference.

Yay for pointers.

[vikke]

Stuffplug 3 would not exist without pointers, so huge kudos to them!

[bravo]

Hi All,
I am beginner of MSN plugin programming, i am interested in the topic you discussed in this thread.
I want to put a button on the conversation window just as stuffplug did. When I use spy++ to observe the window, I found it is a "DirectUIHWND" window and it has no any child window :-). Then I serched the interne and learn we can use functions which exported from msncore.dll to do such job. But this dll is undocumented and it is hard to guess all the usefull functions i need. do you have any good ideas or experience to share with me? And I also know it might be secret of your company, if so , could give me some advise on this topic?

Thanks!!!!

[EaglesNestOne]

Welcome to the forums Bravo! . I don't know much about C++ but I've been meaning to learn it some day (along with Russian). I'm sure TB would know but maby you should have a look at some tuts on how to make messenger plugins?

Regards,
EaglesNestOne.